We usually don’t pay attention to people like this, but I think that this guy’s harsh words really represent the current “tea bag” movement and the attitude towards the Obama administration that Fox News pundits have been endorsing. This ever-growing dissatisfaction with the way our government is run can only end one way, as this gentleman clearly demonstrates…
The government is afraid of the guns people have because they have to have control of the people at all times. Once you take away the guns, you can do anything to the people. You give them an inch and they take a mile. I believe we are slowly turning into a socialist government. The government is continually growing bigger and more powerful, and the people need to prepare to defend themselves against government control.
Taxes are a joke. Regardless of what a political candidate “promises,” they will increase. More taxes are always the answer to government mismanagement. They mess up. We suffer. Taxes are reaching cataclysmic levels, with no slowdown in sight. Go ahead, take everything I own; take my dignity. Feel good as you grow fat and rich at my expense; sucking my tax dollars and property, tax dollars which justify your existence and pay your federal salary. Do you get it? By doing your evil job, you put me out of work. All you tyrannical mother fuckers will swing in the wind one day for your treasonous actions against the Constitution of the United States. Remember the Nuremberg War Trials. “But…but…but…I only followed orders…” Die, you spineless cowardice bastards.
I reached the decision to go on the offensive – to put a check on government abuse of power, where others had failed in stopping the federal juggernaut running amok. I wish to use the words of Justice Brandeis dissenting in Olmstead to speak for me. He wrote, “Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example.”
Those who betray or subvert the Constitution are guilty of sedition and/or treason, are domestic enemies and should and will be punished accordingly. It also stands to reason that anyone who sympathizes with the enemy or gives aid or comfort to said enemy is likewise guilty. I have sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and I will. And I will because not only did I swear to, but I believe in what it stands for in every bit of my heart, soul and being. I know in my heart that I am right in my struggle. I have come to peace with myself, my God and my cause. Blood will flow in the streets…Good vs. Evil. Free Men vs. Socialist Wannabe Slaves. Pray it is not your blood, my friend. Is a Civil War imminent? Do we have to shed blood to reform the current system? I hope it doesn’t come to that. But it might.
A man with nothing left to lose is a very dangerous man and his energy/anger can be focused toward a common/righteous goal. What I’m asking you to do, then, is sit back and be honest with yourself. Do you have kids/wife? Would you back out at the last minute to care for the family? Are you interested in keeping your firearms for their current/future monetary value, or would you drag that ’06 through rock, swamp and cactus…to get off the needed shot? In short, I’m not looking for talkers, I’m looking for fighters…And if you are a fed, think twice. Think twice about the Constitution you are supposedly enforcing (isn’t “enforcing freedom” an oxymoron?) and think twice about catching us with our guard down – you will lose…and your family will lose.
So, any guesses as to who wrote this little tirade? I sent this letter to a few people before I posted it here, and the top guesses were Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and Sean Hannity. It’s actually Timothy McVeigh, the domestic terrorist responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 that killed 168 people. If you read this and were cheering, “Fuck yeah, man!” after every line, you may want to re-evaluate your worldview (and mental stability). The above isn’t actually a letter at all, but a collection of quotes from his writings and various other statements, including his final speech before being sentenced to death. While I have switched a few of the sentences around to make it read as one big letter, the meaning of his original words remains the same – the government is becoming a socialist regime that burdens us with unfair taxes while taking away our guns and something must be done about it…but what is that something?
When you ask your average teabagger (and not the ones in the porn industry), you realize that they don’t even know that that they’re actually paying less taxes under Obama and that income taxes are at their lowest rates in decades, so they certainly have no hope of coming up with a viable solution to the current economic situation that trumps the president’s. They also didn’t protest Bush or McCain’s support of the bailouts, but conveniently have a problem with similar government spending by the guy they didn’t vote for…sounds more like political butthurt than frustration with the system. I’m not worried about these armchair activists – they had their five minutes in front of the camera with their misspelled signs and recycled slogans and now they’re just going to go back to work. (Much in the same way that the liberal protesters did jack shit to kick Bush out of office.) There’s another group of right-wing nutballs that I’m much more concerned about, and they’re the kind of people that McVeigh used to seek out and chat with at gun shows.
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They are the people that think there’s a New World Order, a conspiracy of epic proportions orchestrated by the liberal elite to disarm the people and install both a fascist and socialist worldwide regime, a contradiction of terms completely lost on these hillbilly philosophers. And every conservative pundit out there is perpetuating these tinfoil hat myths to the point where these gun nuts are starting to crawl out of their shacks and KKK meetings as their views become more mainstream. It’s clear that people like Limbaugh and Beck are doing it purely for the ratings, but what they don’t realize is that they’re actually giving guys like Jim Adkisson the encouragement they need to do, in their minds, “what has to be done.” Alex Jones, the conspiracy theorist that Fox News wouldn’t have given the time of day right after 9/11, has now set his sights on Obama, so he was immediately invited to appear on their station as an honored guest. Would they have invited McVeigh on the show, had he never planted that bomb on April 19th? If Beck read one of McVeigh’s letters and claimed it as his own, would anyone even notice?
It’s one thing to believe that there is nothing wrong with our government – that’s just naïve. It’s corrupt on almost every level and the few who benefit from this system are greedy corporate executives who couldn’t give a flying fuck about the common good. But thinking that opening fire on a bunch of cops, shooting up a church, or bombing a federal building is going to change anything is like thinking that flying two planes into the Twin Towers is going to win your personal war against American tyranny. This system is only going to change by electing real thinkers with real ideas…not revolting, overthrowing whoever you don’t like, and installing whichever member of your group wears the shiniest tinfoil. You see, that’s called a dictatorship, and isn’t that what you’re crusading against? (Just ask parts of Africa how that’s working out for them.) The only people that want to take away your guns are your mom and dad who have noticed that you’ve spent more time talking to your hunting rifles than members of the opposite sex. This country isn’t perfect, and we’ll be the first blog in line to point that out, but just the simple fact that you can go on national television and spout this kind of unfounded horseshit shows that we’re a lot more free than you might think. Being pissed over an election doesn’t excuse letting the inmates run the asylum, and using the same talking points that justified the deadliest act of domestic terrorism in American history may not result in the kind of change you had in mind.
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Really, really great Rich! I’m pretty terrified at how much Tim McVeigh sounds like my next door neighbor. This railing against taxes is insane and goes to show how much people take for granted.
Obama was democratically elected yet most teabaggers behave as if they’re under some eastern dictatorship. Grow up and stop acting like spoilt children.
Good points. These right-wing jackasses can’t stand a black man in the Oval Office (but were just fine with BushCO selling out their kid’s future).
It’s just possible that if they pull out their guns and start banging away, they will find return fire headed their way from pissed off neighbors also exercising THEIR second amendment rights.
The MAJORITY of us think Obama is leading in the right direction. The MAJORITY of us know that the Republicans held power for 8 years and this all occurred on their watch, at their doing.
The MAJORITY of us voted Obama President. The MAJORITY of us are sick of business as usual – which means we’re sick of the different standard for the rich and privileged. They OWN the media trying to make Obama responsible for Bush disasters. Not buying it, fellas.
If you’re not one of that top 1%, your taxes are the lowest in recent history thanks to Obama. Turn off that corporate media megaphone and get a real life, Republicans.
d zent: Good on you for pointing out the role the corporate media play in fostering these nutty sentiments.
Fist, all I ask is that you READ THE CONSTITUTION –preferably three times over. And if you have a problem with those “nutty sentiments” I suggest you find a different country to live in. There a plenty of them that aren’t founded on those principles. Stop trying to turn this country into one of those! There has to be at least one place on this planet where life liberty and the pursuit of happiness reign.
Remember, Hitler was elected. (Yeah, I know, Godwin’s law –shove it.) Admittedly, he even usurped extraordinary powers using the German Constitution of the time.
Tyranny of the MAJORITY is still TYRANNY. That’s why the U.S. Constitution defines a representative REPUBLIC with intentional restrictions on what the government can do, regardless of what the MAJORITY wants –not a democracy.
Now, if the “majority” are sick of the different standard for the rich, how come there’s so angry at reducing taxes on them? The top 10% of earners pay 70% of the country’s revenue. Hey, I agree. That’s discrimination!
Oh, and note to the author. Heading toward fascism and socialism at the same time isn’t really a contradiction in terms. They both exploit an appeal to the “working man” while trying to establish what is essentially a feudal system. Also note the Nazi is a contraction of the German words meaning “National Socialist”.
These tea-bagging whiners are just don’t get it: taxes pay for THE MILITARY, police, fire, hospitals, nurses, teachers, garbage collection, ambulances and tons of other services that they want. These services do not make products that can be sold for a profit – the operate on budgets and budgets come from tax money. So – unless these morons can figure out how to get all these services withoug paying for them through their tax dollars, they really need to just shut up and get over it.
“And if you have a problem with those “nutty sentiments” I suggest you find a different country to live in. ”
Heed thine own words. If you don’t like the sentiments expressed in the article, move to another country.
Guilt by association fallacy. Is the writer suggesting those who believe in individual liberty are terrorists? Perhaps he believes Thomas Jefferson was a terrorist.
What the ‘writer’ doesn’t seem to grasp about taxes is that inflation is a tax. Yes, that’s right. Just because you were not directly taxed, doesn’t change the simple principal that “What government gives, it must first take away.” For every dollar it creates, then spends, our own dollars are made to be worth less. Bailouts, stimulus. From the last year alone they have doubled our money supply. Prepare to see hyperinflation the likes that we have never seen. And that is your tax.
The Tea Party is a group originally put together by Campaign for Liberty as a peaceful revolution. To say enough is enough. John F. Kennedy once said “Those who stand in the way of peaceful revolution guarantee a violent one.”
I’d say this distortionist falls into this category.
Bubbles
While the Nazi party had ‘Socialism’ in their name, they were not Socialists in the same sense. Socialism/Communism, in terms of the economy, is totally different from Fascism. Communism requires the state (as in the government) to be in control of the means of production, and dictate how much of a product is produced, and which products are produced. Fascist economies are privately owned, but the government favours businesses that follow the state agenda. There was still a market economy. So the author was right, a Fascist AND Socialist government are indeed contradictions in terms
What Timothy McVeigh did was despicable and I doubt any REAL Americans (even the ones that agree with some of what he says in your above quotes) would seriously consider the idea that the way to change is through guns and bombs. You are correct in saying “This system is only going to change by electing real thinkers with real ideas…not revolting”, – this is the precise issue that caused me not to vote last fall. The most important issue (to me at least) last fall was the economy and on that issue both of the candidates had the same idea – bailouts, stimulus and big government. Now, before I get flamed is important to understand that I am neither a Democrat or Republican (although, technically I am a registered Democrat) – I just vote my conscience and I didn’t care for the policies of either candidate (I voted for Kerry in’04).
As far as the Tea party people you are correct in saying that many of them are just pissed off Republicans that are just now joining the party. But it is important to understand the the Tea Party movement was not started by these people, but has been co-opted by the Republican party as they try to find a way to stay relevant.
Many of the people (including Alex Jones) that protested on April 15th were just as opposed to big government policies under Bush. Unfortunately they didn’t get much coverage before Obama got elected primarily because they are associated with Ron Paul and secondarily because Fox News would not cover any story that was anti-Bush. It should also be noted that the people that started the Tea Party movement have always maintained it must be peaceful (including Alex Jones and Ron Paul).
While you are correct in saying that we pay lower taxes now then we have in previous decades it can’t last forever. The true cost of Government is not what it taxes but what it spends. We will eventually pay for it all through direct taxation or indirect inflation (turn on CNBC or any other financial channel, they all tell you a tax hike is coming next year). It should be no surprise to anybody that we have lower taxes under Obama right now as it is politically unacceptable to raise taxes in the middle of a recession/depression. I have never understood why anyone, Democrat or Republican would be on board for the absurd amount we are taxed. I gross about $40,000 a year from my primary job and only net about $24,000 a year – and this doesn’t account for all the taxes I pay on the things I purchase.
The only other thing I would say is that you are over generalizing who the Tea Party people are. They aren’t all Republicans, some are Democrats, but they are all Americans and should be thought of as such. There are many miss-guided people in this country (some Democrats, some Republicans) and rather than (and this goes for both sides) call them crazies/morons/idiots why not show us that your ideas are whats best for the country. On that note I’ll leave you with this:
“Be the change you want to see in the world.” – Mahatma Ghandi
“This railing against taxes is insane and goes to show how much people take for granted.”
Take for granted? We pay (through taxes) for every service we use, the government doesn’t give us anything for free so how can we take it for granted?
“The MAJORITY of us know that the Republicans held power for 8 years and this all occurred on their watch, at their doing.”
Although the Bushies did plenty to screw the country up, much of the deregulation that took place to precipitate the economic collapse took place under the Clinton administration. Look up the Glass-Stegall act.
“These tea-bagging whiners are just don’t get it: taxes pay for THE MILITARY, police, fire, hospitals, nurses, teachers, garbage collection, ambulances and tons of other services that they want”
Actually, the police, fire departments, hospitals, teachers, garbage collectors and ambulances are mostly paid for with state and local taxes. The biggest federal tax on the people (the income tax), goes solely to pay the interest on the national debt – a debt that is needlessly incurred because Congress gave up the right to coin money (this power now resides exclusively with the Federal Reserve).
To “d zent”: The MAJORITY is two wolves and sheep deciding whats for dinner – the wolves will be happy, but the sheep, not so much. This is the kind of thinking our country was founded to avoid. We are supposed to protect minorities in this country so their rights are not infringed upon. That isn’t to say that I think any Republicans are having their rights infringed upon, but it should be understood that the founders understood the problems with this kind of thinking, which is why they formed a REPUBLIC instead of a Democracy. Democracy is essentially “Majority Rules”.
To “Jamie”: While you are correct that there are differences in the terms “Fascism” and “Socialism” the end is the same – Government control over the economy. You are correct in saying “Fascist economies are privately owned, but the government favours businesses that follow the state agenda.” you miss the fact that because the Government favors certain business the ones they don’t favor are slowly put out of business because they can no longer compete. Although the means by which Socialism and Fascism attain total economic power is different, the end result is the same – the economy is centrally controlled by the Government. What we are marching towards (at least economically speaking, in the USA) is Fascism – not Socialism. But, don’t take my word for it – read the Mussolini (a guy who knew a thing or two about Fascism) quotes below to see what he had to say about the matter.
“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”. – Mussolini
“Fascism is capitalism plus murder.” – Mussolini
I think all of you need to research the OKC bombing a little more before you wave Tim McVeigh around as an example…. of anything.
In response to the “doctor” as well as most of the right wingers going absolutely ballistic in here (which I find hilarious, so keep it up), you may want to do a little research yourselves. If you read the article carefully, I never once said that anyone on the right is “guilty by association.” I’m simply asking how good this sort of language really is when it provokes and encourages nutbags like Timmy here. I’ve browsed many conservative blogs recently and found a LOT of talk about a “revolution.” How far are you all willing to take this? As far as, say, Scott Roeder? How about James Von Brunn? Not only did they read a lot of the same stuff Mr. McVeigh was into, but they loved writing about it on the internet as well. Yes, maybe you PERSONALLY wouldn’t shoot or bomb anybody, but you have to realize that there IS a pattern of right-wing violence that started immediately after Obama took office. There ARE people who take this stuff way too seriously, and all I’m trying to say is “Think before you speak.” Think about the words you are using and the impact they will have on other people, many of which may be fucking crazy. Right-wing hate is a very specific hate, and as it becomes more mainstream, so too will these sickos…
http://mediamatters.org/columns/200906120037
http://gawker.com/5286144/the-rise-of-right+wing-violence
…and I’ve got a hundred more articles I could link.
History repeats itself, folks. I’m just pointing out the warning signs. Just days after I posted this article, another right-winger was arrested for planning to murder civilians and cops and posting his demented thoughts all over Twitter. Luckily, the FBI got him before he actually carry it out, but if you check out his twitter account, you’ll see that he fits the same description, reading and linking the same type of shit Timmy was into. His account is still up, so read it for yourself…
http://twitter.com/CitizenQuasar
And here’s an article about his arrest…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/26/tea-party-twitter-arrest_n_191527.html
Personally, I don’t see how a society filled with crazies firing guns at innocent people is any better than the “evil communist/socialist/Nazi/insert buzz word here regime” that these idiots rant about, but I guess that makes me a “pussy liberal.”
Scott Mason, ThankYou for your well thought out and spoken comments to these tirades. As Americans we all should be concerned about the “changes” that this current administration and congress are bringing upon us. As Americans we all need to stand up against both parties. It would appear to me, that both parties have the same agenda just different courses of action. As far as being taxed less. The 15 dollars a week relief you are experiencing is not a full tax credit because it does not come off the bottom line. Also what about the recent hike in cigarettes? Now I am not a cigarette smoker but it is proven that the majority of smokers or on the lower end of the pay spectrum. So if the cost of cigarettes goes up, who is paying the tax? Also let’s take a closer look at what government uses tax money for. It is much more than the things they are authorized to pay for. The federal government is responsible for the protection of our borders and of maintaining a Military. They are not responsible to pay for field mice in San Fransisco or lost lobster traps in Oregon. Or the multiple other “projects” that they use American tax dollars to pay for. I am not sure how reverse discrimination of targeting the rich and forcing them to pay for pet projects of politicians is an enlightened way of doing government. There use to be a time when men were responsible for themselves and did not rely on government to hold their hand from cradle to grave. When men used to get satisfaction from doing a hard days work and taking home an honest days wage. Now government requires that man still give a hard days work but only lets him take home less than half a days wage. All the while promoting and encouraging others to not work at all and rewarding them for doing so. Accept it or not our country has many grave concerns it is facing. I am in agreement that we need to elect men and women that will revive the morals and values that this country was founded upon and which I believe that many Americans still hold dear. The problem is the majority has sat silent by for far too long while the minority and special interest has had its way the morals and values that the government represents. For far too long politicians have been running and ruining our freedoms. I am of the opinion that our founding fathers never meant for life long politicians to live on Capitol Hill. Rather I think it was fully expected that they would go and serve for a reasonable time and then return to their communities and serve there and live their lives. I do not thing America was ever intended to be a home for Elitist to run shod over the people. Let us stop the finger pointing at each other as American Citizens and focus our attention where it is needed, finding honest men and women of character that love America as much as we do and will see to it that the injustices that now plague us are removed. We need statesmen. We need citizens to stand up and serve. We need doctors, farmers, business owners, teachers, house wives, construction workers, ect. to run for office. People who know what life is like on the streets. People who know what it means to sacrifice so that they do not have to fire employees. People who have lived life as citizens and not as elitist. People who know what it is to struggle and fight and sacrifice just to keep going day to day. People who have raised themselves up by the sweat of their own brow and not that of someone else s. We need to find these men and women and invite them to serve in public office and improve our country. We need to make our voices heard as Americans, not as republicans and democrats but as Americans.
You go boy! From the Declaration of Independence…….That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to its means, it is the RIGHT of the governed to change or abolish such government and institute new government………. Guess WE THE PEOPLE at least used to know when it was time to stand up. I raised my hand back in the day to protect this country against foreigh OR domestric threat. Well, guess what? Others too I’d guarantee.
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Calling people “tea baggers” is offensive. It’s the same kind of intolerant mindset that calls homosexuals “butt boys” and lesbians “carpet munchers”. That’s the company you are keeping. I bet your parents are proud.
I’m not quite sure I follow you here, Brandon. They call themselves teabaggers, and hold up signs up that say that they’re going to “tea bag” the liberals…so how am I being offensive and they are not? And by the way, I could give a fuck about being offensive…just look around this site. And my parents are lovely people and are quite proud, but thank you for asking. I’ll tell them that you’ve been asking about them.
“Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country”.
TAC: “Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country”.
Quoted from one of our most liberal presidents.
Well Rich, I was thinking more on the lines of what the message sent rather than who it was from. There was a day in this country when ones wisdom was not relative to which political party they were connected with and certainly these days everyone is looking to see what the government is going to do for them next. If we have become so co-dependent then have we not lost our freedom to some extent already? The first step to fixing a problem is to identify it first and in co-dependency identifying comes after the fact.
If our two main political parties were created to inspire objectivity it would seem that these days what we get is bitchfighting from across the isles. That along with the separate agendas of each party, their ongoing battle with each other to be in charge, objectivity went bye-bye awhile back and as a result the American people get to foot the bill. I firmly believe in a certain form of goverment, and am a veteran, and do not condon violence but this has got to stop. Our own government is tearing our country apart while we stand by and do nothing but gripe and complain and point fingers and do nothing.
I’m not a tea bagger but I get the message, I wasn’t a hippie either but I still got the message…….
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men and women to do nothing”
Thanks for your site Rich.
And as for the tea baggers, let’s see?…..ALOT of people standing up in protest of taxation…..? Seems that’s happened before in our nations history. I say GO TEA BAGGERS! GO!!!!! To force the beast out in the open you have to cut off its food supply. The end result could eventually be a slim, trim, American form of functional government. It was bound to happen eventually.
I AM NOT AN APOLOGIST FOR TIM MCVEIGH OR THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT BUT YOUR “LETTER” IS INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST. PARSING QUOTATIONS AND DOING A LITTLE ‘SWITCHING AROUND’ CAN RESULT IN MISLEADING THE READERS AS TO MR. MCVEIGH’S TRUE THOUGHTS AND CONVICTIONS. LET HIM SPEAK FOR HIMSELF AS HE SPOKE AND IN THE PROPER CONTEXT.
Agreed. All this trashing of the Republicans is excellent and right on point. Also on point, the point that this government is corrupted on all levels. Some of you have become so fed up with Bush (and for good reason but here me out), that you are accepting this governance under Obama. Dig in to the details of every bill that that has passed under Obama and you will see that there are still compromises and watered down loopholes that make the laws acceptable to corporate governance. The writer is absolute right that we will only change the system by electing real thinkers with real ideas. Obama is not one of these. Hardly any elected representative in congress is one of these. Neither has been any President for some time. Both parties are embroiled in a duel over which achieves power over the other. It is in the interest of both not to let anyone else in if they can help it.
We will certainly never get anywhere with violence as the writer pointed out.
The only way to change this system is for the people to shift there gaze away from the endless “crises” that face us consistently of a different flavor each time. Immigration, Health Care, Environmentalism, The Credit Crunch, Swine Flu, Education, Socialist take-overs, suicide bombers attacking our invading armies, and every other brand of BS perpetuated by the leadership by faulty policy clothed in the image of a short phrase solution and amounting to a collection of incomprehensible details they call a legislative bill that was worked out over coffee in a dark little room with no windows.
The American people must shift there efforts first and foremost to breaking down the monopoly on the media, severing the grip that corporate and special interests hold on our lawmakers, and taking the money out of our politics to ever hope to achieve what most of us probably see as common goals like oil independence, economic stability, competitive free markets, thriving small business, fair taxes, some measure of government assistance to the less fortunate to help them and hopefully lift them to independence, wars that are only made in defense and never in haste and aggression, beautiful landscapes with preserved wildlife, clean energy sources and cars that run without gas, education systems that teach critical thinking as well as reading, writing, and arithmetic.
As long as the voice of propaganda grows stronger we will never excel toward these goals.
The best thing Americans can do right now is seek out dissent for every opinion of either party and every candidate. Never buy into inspiring claims and rhetoric. It is the actions and details of your candidates that matter. Seek out there miss-steps and vote them out for them. Let us cycle through candidates at every turn until the incumbents are all but unknown and fresh new faces appear as rookies in every office.
Then repeat.
Scrutinize every new rookie with the same disgust. Eventually some rookie sensations will appear. Those that are compromising with our values will quickly go the way of the incumbents before them and be cast out.
All this talk of reaching across the isle in congress and we all know it won’t happen. The people are those who must reach across. Reach across and recognize that I am your fellow american and we are neither Republicans nor Democrats. These groups have clearly both been corrupted.
Let no candidate go into a second term unless you are satisfied that they have been more than acceptable, and in fact incredible.
Acceptable is what isn’t working here.
We are all tired of voting for the lesser evil every election.
Wouldn’t you agree?
Just figuring all this out are ya now? And finally the ostrich pulls his head out of the sand.
Considering this was published over a year ago, no, I think we figured it out WAY before many people did (including the mainsteam media members who have just recently made the connection). Might want to pull YOUR head out of the sand…and your ass while you’re at it.
Considering I’ve been an activist going on twenty years you might just want to take your own advice…..pup.
I wasn’t aware that “activists” can’t read. It’s funny that most “activists” I hear from have nothing better to do than troll websites and act like elitist “I’m more educated than you about everything” dipshits. You’re really changing the world right now for the better, aren’t you?…..asshole.
Rich, you keep saying it’s not guilt by association, but you keep repeating the fallacy.
There is nothing in the writings that McVeigh read and even the arguments he made that have anything to do with the actions he took. I know people who are 100% bark who say far worse than what you are highlighting, and may I add that is a stunning shade of purple to boot in that Hi-liter, Senor Hypocrite. Then again maybe you’re not a hypocrite, you just have a lot of silly cognitive baggage you take for substance.
You might wanna check that lil docusnuff that Rachel Maddow promoted. It also had McVeigh angry about having to kill brown people in the Gulf War. Maddow has lost a former fan since that, just like Olbermann lost me when he gave Obama leeway on wiretapping.
What’s really sad is you wannabe lefties are so attached to your couches that you don’t see when a bullseye is painted on your face in broad daylight. This administration is multicultural; it hates both left and right wing groups. It’s just slicker with the media than the last administration. Then again Bush got away with filtered attendance in press conferences and 1.6 billion in fake news. But keep complaining about misunderestimating and teleprompters that’ll make the media gov’t collusion go away.
Idiots all of you, except the few clued in posters. You know who you are.
Did you have to go to college to learn how to make an ass out of yourself Rich, or does it just come natural?
Roy, this “insult” is not only coming from a douchebag who uses phrases like “You go boy!” but is also coming from an asshole so fucking stupid that he posts under multiple names, like “Dave Fisher,” “TAC,” and “Roy,” and uses the same e-mail address for each one. If you don’t want to give people the impression that the tea party is just a small group of fringe nutjobs, you’re doing it wrong.
Apparently “WE THE PEOPLE” (as you stated in caps, which clearly makes your “point” more valid) is only one moron with nothing better to do than to come back to this year-old article for at least 5 straight months and leave moronic comments and flag-waving, out-of-context quotes. Obviously if this post was as ill-conceived as you’ve been claiming it was, you’d have left it far behind after your first comment and not given it another thought. You call yourself an “activist,” but if all activists do is sit in front of their computers all day and troll the comment boards of those they disagree with, then it’s no wonder that nothing changes in this country. Keep up the good work, patriot.
Great post…just stumbled onto it. What the rubes and morons that constitute the odd social hybrid know as ‘Republican Conservative Teabagger’ fail to understand is that we have, by design, a revolution every 4 years. They are called elections. Get the majority of voters to agree with you and you get a chance to govern for 4 years. Funny thing, when their guys, Bush and Cheney, were walking all over the Constitution, starting illegal, immoral wars, and generally destroying the social framework of the country…the Teabaggers were oddly silent. But a Democrat gets elected, cuts his taxes to the lowest levels in 60 years, and creates more jobs in 1 year than Bush did in 8 – well, time for an insurrection!
No, it’s not taxes or gubmint that the Teabaggers hate. They hate not having their Party in control of government. They hate Democracy. They hate us socialists (Democrats), but they must be anti-socialists, right? And name a country that’s prospered when anti-socialists were in charge. They’re good at breaking stuff and killing people, not so good at building things and creating commonwealth. They’d prefer living in a totalitarian society – as long as they get to be the muscle in the dictatorship. For all of their professed love of the Constitution, they really would like to see it shredded and live in a society where might makes right. Morons, all of them.
And while I was being an activist little punks like you were still wondering why your kindergarten teacher made you take a nap. Obviously still haven’t figured it out.
“Muckmakers,…Highlighting the scandals you may have missed”…..Real special! Let’s see….being a parapsychologist, let’s evaluate…..First of all there are those who feed off chaos/scandal. I have in mind the day the wheel was invented and someone eles came along and thought it should be turned sideways. They had no clue except for the idiotic impulse to create chaos.
We sit at our computers and toss the dirt but something tells me we are after the same things, and maybe we have let our frustrations get in our way, well, maybe just a bit, but our frustrations as human being bring us to places such as this. Sometimes maybe to toss the dirt but I think it holds a greater meaning for us all…..maybe there actually are people out there who care as adamantly as I care, and the founder of this website.
I was taught once that if adversity were to try to overcome that it would be within ourselves to define WHO we had become. These days we are still a society of immagrants still standing up for the sake of freedom and to speak our minds. God help us if we ever stand down to those with narrow minds who try to inflict others with narrow views, narrow standards, and especially those who have yet to realize there are others out there with the same common cause at heart. We are all in the same boat together and by some vitue of luck some of still maintain our individuality. Never step on someone else flower. Savy?
You know, you’re just too easy Nate but then again lowlife usually are. A letter from a true patriot? What would you know about patriotism except that ” if you could have afforded it at the time”…your words. As an activist I was acussed of being someone who surfs the internet, an idiot if I remember right who likes nothing better to do than…let’s see…dispute morons like you? Well, where do you think I found morons like you? Tac/Dave Fisher/Roy? What about Rich and “that’s right Nate”….excuse me, I just laughed so hard about the that’s right thing….well, you have to see the humor in it…later fellers.
I love it that now that you’re caught (you most likely assumed that because your e-mail doesn’t show up on the main page that it would be private, not knowing that I could see it), you now admit that you’ve been posting under several different names to make it appear that more people were bashing me than there really were…yet you still want people to take you seriously. Amazing. First you’re an “activist,” and now you’re a “parapsychologist.” Next you’ll be a nuclear physicist and an astronaut…whatever you think it takes to convince people that you know what you’re talking about. No one here thinks you’re smart or even remotely competent, and no one agrees with you. Hell, you don’t even agree with yourself. In one post, you’re saying that we should all just get along. In another, you’re back to name-calling. Just the fact that you posted 3 times within an hour and a half says a lot about how much you care how people perceive you. I haven’t even logged into this site for 3 or 4 days and it’s my fucking site! I’d tell you to get a life, but this clearly IS your life. Apparently parapsychology isn’t much of a booming business these days and you’ve got a LOT of free time on your hands.
If I really felt so threatened by your completely ridiculous posts that have no consistency and make absolutely no sense whatsoever, why would I approve your comments for all to see? Trust me – I’m approving them purely for the entertainment value, and you’re delivering in spades.
Well, at least you’ve shown to other people what they can expext when their views don’t necessarily coincide with yours. We all have our own experiences that form our own individual opinions about things and basically I’m sure we’re after the same things. Bandy words with someone who is so educated they have lost all common sense?….well, ain’t got no time for that.
“…ain’t got no time for that.” Hold on…I need to catch my breath after laughing so hard. This coming from the guy who has been commenting for MONTHS on end! You are the one who can’t stand that someone disagrees with you; hence why you continue coming back. And what can they “expext” from me exactly? A rebuttal and a good, hardy laugh? Man, what a crazy communist/socialist/Nazi tyrant I am! I could just as easily delete every negative comment, but approving them just lets people see how truly idiotic the opposition is and how pathetically low they will go, like using several different usernames to make comments. Thanks for living up to every internet stereotype possible!
Scott Mason,
The income is actual set into a general fund and used for many things such as armed forces. It’s not solely used for debt.
Great article even if it is a older one. I agree with you Rich people are truly nuts and if tea baggers don’t like us using the phrase tea bagging than don’t call yourself it.
I like the Coffee party better. Besides with all of these tea baggers talking about our founder fathers they don’t know much about their own history. During the American Revolution Patriots protested tea and didn’t drink it. Instead they drank coffee. Only people loyal to Britain drank tea.